WASHINGTON — AT&T CEO Randall Stephenson says that AT&T’s decision to hire Donald Trump’s lawyer, Michael Cohen, shortly after the inauguration, was a “big mistake.”

What wasn’t all that unusual, however, for AT&T and other companies, was the scramble to find any connection to the Trump administration after so many in D.C. assumed that Hillary Clinton would be the victor.

On the latest “PopPolitics” on SiriusXM, Dave Levinthal of the Center for Public Integrity talks about the drive for influence in the early days of the administration and the dividing line between business consulting — which Cohen did — and lobbying.

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